Black Flag

Black Flag was formed in 1977, originally called Panic; they played quick, high-energy material inspired most of all by the Ramones’ debut album. The first Black Flag release, and the first SST Records release, was a 1978 EP featuring four songs, the longest of which was 2:05 and the shortest a scant 51 seconds. The band at that time consisted of Ginn, Dukowski (then known as Gary McDaniel), a drummer called Robo and vocalist Keith Morris, sometimes known as Johnny “Bob” Goldstein and destined to lead another seminal LA band, the Circle Jerks. Keith was originally to be the drummer, but Greg talked him out of it, much in the way Malcolm McLaren talked John Lydon into becoming Johnny Rotten: “The whole thing is the people’s attitude, what they want to put across emotionally rather than how good their voice is,” Greg told Flipside magazine years later.

PANIC! [Keith Morris, Greg Ginn, Chuck Dukowski, Robo] Photographer unknown, c. 1977-78


Show List and Key Dates – This index features show dates, venues, and flyers


Releases – This index features only vinyl and includes official releases

Unofficial Releases – This index features only vinyl and includes unofficial recordings


Formation and early years (1978-1981)
Initially called Panic!, Black Flag was formed in 1976 in Hermosa Beach, California. Ginn insisted that the band rehearse several hours a day. This work ethic proved too challenging for some early members; Ginn and singer Keith Morris had an especially difficult time finding a reliable bass guitarist and often rehearsed without a bassist, a factor that contributed to the development of Ginn’s distinctive guitar sound. Ginn’s brother Raymond Pettibon and SST house record producer-to-be Spot (aka Glenn Michael Lockett) filled in during rehearsals. In the beginning, Ginn and Morris were inspired by the raw, stripped-down attitude of bands such as the Ramones and the Stooges. Ginn has said “We were influenced by the Stooges and then the Ramones; they inspired us. Keith and myself saw the Ramones when they first toured LA in 1976. After we saw them, I said if they could do it we could do it. I thought Keith would be a good singer and after seeing the Ramones, it made him think that he doesn’t have to be some classical operatic singer.”

Chuck Dukowski, bassist of Würm, liked Ginn’s band and eventually joined, forming a committed quartet with Ginn, Morris and drummer Brian Migdol. The band held their first performance in December 1977 in Redondo Beach, California. To avoid confusion with another band called Panic, they changed their name to Black Flag in late 1978.[5] They played their first show under this name on January 27, 1979, at the Moose Lodge Hall in Redondo Beach, California. This was the first time Dez Cadena saw the band perform.

The name was suggested by Ginn’s brother, artist Raymond Pettibon, who also designed the band’s logo: a stylized black flag represented as four black bars. Pettibon stated “If a white flag means surrender, a black flag represents anarchy.” Their new name was reminiscent of the anarchist symbol, the insecticide of the same name, and of the British heavy metal band Black Sabbath, one of Ginn’s favorite bands. Ginn suggested that he was “comfortable with all the implications of the name.” The band spray painted the simple, striking logo all over Los Angeles, attracting attention from both supporters and the Los Angeles Police Department. Pettibon also created much of their cover artwork.

There were few opportunities for punk rock bands to perform in Southern California (Los Angeles club The Masque was the center of the L.A. punk scene, but was also rather parochial, and did not often admit bands from outside L.A. proper). Black Flag organized their own gigs, performing at picnics, house parties, schools; any place that was available. They called club owners themselves to arrange appearances, and plastered hundreds of flyers—usually Pettibon’s severe, haunting comic strip style panels—on any available surface to publicize performances. Dukowski reported that the “minimum [number of flyers] that went out was 500 for a show.”

Though Ginn was the band’s leader, he was more quiet than Dukowski, whose intelligent, fast-talking, high-energy persona attracted significant attention, and he often served as Black Flag’s spokesman to the press. Dukowski acted as the group’s tour manager even after he no longer performed with them, and helped establish the band’s DIY punk ethic and demanding work ethic.[citation needed] Dukowski’s bass guitar was a vital part of the early Black Flag sound; “TV Party”, for instance, was one of many songs “driven more by Chuck Dukowski’s percolating bass line than Ginn’s stun-gun guitar.”

Morris performed as vocalist on Black Flag’s earliest recordings, and his energized, manic stage presence was pivotal in the band earning a reputation in Southern California. Migdol was replaced by the enigmatic Colombian drummer Robo, whose numerous clicking metallic bracelets became part of his drum sound. The band played with a speed and ferocity that was all but unprecedented in rock music; critic Ira Robbins declared that “Black Flag was, for all intents and purposes, America’s first hardcore band.” Morris quit in 1979, citing, among other reasons, creative differences with Ginn, and his own “freaking out on cocaine and speed.” Morris would subsequently form the Circle Jerks.

After Morris’s departure, Black Flag recruited fan Ron Reyes as singer. With Reyes, Black Flag recorded the Jealous Again 12-inch EP and appeared in the film The Decline of Western Civilization. This was also the line-up that toured up and down the West Coast for the first time, the version most fans outside of L.A. first saw.

In 1980, Reyes quit Black Flag mid-performance at the Fleetwood in Redondo Beach because of escalating violence. For the remainder of that gig, the band played an extended version of “Louie Louie” and invited audience members to take turns singing.

Dez Cadena (who was also a fan), joined the band on vocals, and proved to be more reliable than his predecessor. Black Flag began national touring.

By the summer of 1981, however, Cadena’s voice was worn. He had no formal training or previous experience as a singer, and had severely strained his voice during Black Flag’s nonstop touring, and he wanted to play guitar rather than perform vocals.

[Rollins played his first show with Black Flag on July 25, 1981, at Cuckoo’s Nest in Costa Mesa, California.]